Will Volkswagen Be Making Diesel Again in the Usa

• #4

I'd put the odds at ane:10,000. They basically wore out their welcome with the illegal stuff.

• #vi

I'm gonna go against the grain and say we will run across diesel come up back.

Diesel wont be phased out anytime presently considering of over the road hauling. Electric just doesnt have the range that a diesel fuel big rig does, then we are going to be reliant on information technology for a while longer.

Plus look at how good the buyback TDI's are selling. I'yard seeing more on the road today than I was before the scandal. I think people are easy to forgive and forget, peculiarly if Vw can prove to everyone (including CARB and the EPA) that the cars are legitimately as clean every bit they claim. And I tin can guarantee, IF Vw wants to bring them in, they will be HEAVILY scrutinized before they are certified for utilise on our roads.

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• #nine

I'yard gonna go against the grain and say we will see diesel fuel come back.

Diesel fuel wont be phased out anytime soon because of over the road hauling. Electric just doesnt take the range that a diesel large rig does, so nosotros are going to exist reliant on information technology for a while longer.

Plus look at how good the buyback TDI'southward are selling. I'k seeing more on the road today than I was before the scandal. I think people are easy to forgive and forget, especially if Vw tin prove to everyone (including CARB and the EPA) that the cars are legitimately as make clean equally they claim. And I can guarantee, IF Vw wants to bring them in, they will be HEAVILY scrutinized before they are certified for utilise on our roads.

I'm with Fixmy59bug. Diesel is far from expressionless and non going to go away tomorrow.

My next vehicle probable will exist a diesel pickup truck to exist able to get a diesel vehicle. I'm becoming more than of a truck guy as well. I wish I had kept the 08 Ford F-350 SuperDuty 6.4L PowerStroke Diesel fuel pickup truck I owned several years ago. While my BMW diesels are long term keepers, I miss that truck and wish I had kept information technology. I didn't think I would miss it as much equally I exercise when I sold it. At the time it was difficult to justify owning 3 vehicles when I am the simply driver of them. I volition probably take another diesel pickup truck again in the future.

Whatsoever I ain and drive absolutely HAS to be Diesel powered. Gassers including gasser hybrids are non an option at all. BMW made a business determination to stop selling their diesel vehicles in the U.s.a. after 2018. That caused me to make a business organization conclusion also. BMW non returning with diesel fuel vehicles ways I won't exist returning to BMW as a customer in the future. Volkswagen already lost me every bit a future repeat client due to no more TDIs after the Dieselgate scandal. I had already moved on from VW TDIs to BMW Advanced Diesel before the Dieselgate scandal broke.

The diesel pickup truck marketplace is already well established has not been threatened at all by the Dieselgate scandal. I am willing to do any information technology takes to continue owning and driving only DIESEL vehicles. Diesel pickup owners are our friends in this case.

• #12

At IDParts we estimate that the buyback cars volition be effectually and in active service for another 10 years at to the lowest degree. We've been surprised that parts sales for ALH and BEW cars take been essentially level for the by ten years, with a modest spike in sales when folks sold dorsum their CR cars, bought MKIVs, and dumped thousands into them to bring them up to snuff. If there'due south naught out in that location to replace the buyback cars people are driving I suspect they'll be around for a while.

• #15

Dieselgate did hurt the low-cal duty truck market. It delayed the launch of the Canyon/Colorado past about half a year due to EPA requesting more than testing and recertification. GM learned from this lesson and waited longer to launch the diesel fuel in the 1500s, trucks and SUVS.
It hurt the Ram by the courts deciding the Fiat had to exist hiding something in thier programming and forcing them to adjust the emmissions software. Lots of talk well-nigh a new form activeness lawsuit over the "fix". FCA has an active call up to reflash all of the fixed truck for a third time. The also had to deal with a stop auction of over half a year on the 17s. The 17s were subjected to the same software changes without bounty or getting the updated flash.
Dieselgate too delayed the launch of the F150 diesel, but then Ford took care of anyone really wnating one by only offering on the meridian couple of trims and designing the engine to consume bolts.

Simply at to the lowest degree Mazda is offering united states of america a new Skyactiv-D

• #sixteen

Based on the sales figures, I don't call up skyactiv d will hang effectually for long in this market.

• #17

Likely not, but if you can find a CPO one in a year or 2, they should be priced attractively (one hopes...).

• #18

I dubiousness they'll bring it back, but if they did, I'm sure VW would accept tons of old customers come dorsum. I would sell mine and buy a new one just for the newer rubber tech if they brought them back. Since I know they're not going to bring them back, I'll keep driving my 15 Passat TDI. I had my problems with information technology, but I love the dang matter now that it's working once again, lol. When I was younger I didn't see why anyone would want to proceed an quondam car, merely at present I understand and am one of those people. If something happened to my automobile where it was totaled or something, and then I would near probable purchase some other to supplant it.

• #19

Referring to a '15 Passat every bit an old car fabricated me smiling. My '15 GSW is the newest car I ain. Oldest is a '93 Mercedes 300D, followed by a '97 Passat. That motorcar is withal a pleasure to bulldoze despite being 22 years sometime and approaching 300K miles. Lots of life left.

If diesels don't come back i think I'm set up for TDIs for the rest of my life, if necessary.

• #20

My new car is an "05 Jeep CRD. {)
Just as well my "ten Golf game TDI got totalled, much happier with the "02 .
I'1000 suspicious of the new & improved "features", I want to drive the car,
not a bunch of sensors in command.

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• #22

Based on the sales figures, I don't think skyactiv d will hang around for long in this market place.

Considering we have been sitting on our initial CX-5 D since we got it last JULY, coupled with the fact that Mazda just IS NOT advertising them AND that they offer almost NO do good over the gasoline versions, its a dead horse earlier even leaving the gate.

• #23

I'1000 gonna go confronting the grain and say nosotros volition encounter diesel come back.

Diesel wont be phased out anytime soon considering of over the road hauling. Electric just doesnt take the range that a diesel big rig does, so we are going to be reliant on it for a while longer.

Plus look at how good the buyback TDI's are selling. I'm seeing more on the road today than I was before the scandal. I recollect people are like shooting fish in a barrel to forgive and forget, particularly if Vw tin prove to everyone (including CARB and the EPA) that the cars are legitimately as make clean as they claim. And I tin guarantee, IF Vw wants to bring them in, they volition be HEAVILY scrutinized before they are certified for use on our roads.

If I rubbed my finger inside the tailpipe of my (deceased) 2010 JSW, there wasn't any sign of soot. I didn't like the complication of the emissions system, (etc.) but it was a 'make clean' auto in my book...

• #24

I am with y'all on this, Information technology is difficult to discover an electric car with range while towing. My little TDI still gives me 29 mpg when the trailer is attached to it and I can acme up the tank pretty much anywhere in minutes. Electrical has lots of catching up in this case.

Battery 'density' (charging power-length of charge) has to increase by a factor of 15, before batteries can equal gasoline. In the unabridged history of battery applied science, 'density' has simply increased by a cistron of 10.
If an Li-O2 battery can be successfully developed, the internal combustion engine will fall by the wayside, similar film cameras vs. Digital did almost 20 years agone...

• #28

Maybe I am mistaken on this i, but didn't the Dieselgate Agreement with the U.s.a. regulatory agencies bar VW from importing whatsoever more than diesels to the Us?

No. The agreement prevented VW from exporting the cars they bought back. The easiest and cheapest thing to exercise would have been to buy dorsum the TDIs and consign them to a country with lower emission standards. The EPA made VW either set them or fleck them merely they couldn't leave the U.s.a..

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